We turn to discussion of two albums that are essentially the same album, with some relatively minor difference, and an EP that are released in the first half of 1965. The album in America, known as the Rolling Stones Now! Is released in February of 65, going to number five in the US charts. Almost the same album is released as The Rolling Stones No.2 in the UK in January of 65, and that one goes to number one in the UK charts. And just to remind you, I know I've said this a number of times during the course of of, of discussing this but this is the third American album, but only the second British album. Remember, because 12 by 5 the second American album was never released in the UK because they'd released an EP called 5 by 5. And also remember that for those of us on this side of the pond or the American side of the pond, anyway, these EP's played hardly any role in the way that we think about rock music because they just weren't a format that ever sold very well here. So to a certain extent, that difference we get off in terms of numbering the albums between the two countries by one because of the presence of that EP in the UK. Anyway when we look at this record produced by Andrew Oldham and recorded in three different locations in, in the RCA Studios now, in Hollywood engineered by a guy called Dave Hassinger. Now, Dave Hassinger starts to become an important kind of a guy in the way in which the Rolling Stones were recording up a lot of their music. They really like they, they, they really like the, the studio in LA and are going to end up coming back there an awful lot. And then later in their career, wherever they record around the globe, they'll come back to LA to, to do the last overdubs and mix the records. So LA at this point in November of 1964, so just, just coming into 65. When they're on that, in fact, when they're on that second US tour is when they stop in RCA. There's a story of them being picked up at the airport by Sonny Bono, who at that point was not yet thought of as half of Sonny and Cher, but was just Phil Spector's kind of right hand man. And of course they, they had, Andrew Loog Oldham had had the experience with Phil Specter and there was already a friendship there. They go to these RCA Studios, the RCA Studios were probably most famous in the history of rock music, because of the studios where Elvis Presley recorded a lot of the music when he was in California doing those those movies in the first half of 1960s. So for the Stones, you know, they had already been to the Chess Studios, now they were going to be in the studios where Elvis Presley had recorded. Not sure if it's exactly the same the, exactly the same room, the recording room there or not but, you know, Elvis had recorded there. That's pretty awesome if you're a, if you're a rock and roll fanatic. So some of the, some of these recordings come from the RCA studios, from the November 64 sessions. Some of them are recorded in Regent Sound, their favorite locale for recording in London at this point engineered by Bill Farley. Those recordings are, and come from September of 64, though there's one that dates all the way back to January of 64 that get that track that was re, unused from before and bring it back. And then yet more stuff from Chess Studios, engineered by Ron Malo. More stuff from that June section that they did on the first American Tour, and then they stopped in again during the second am, American Tour in November of 64 and recorded some more stuff. So here's the way I want to think about Rolling Stones No.2 slash The Rolling Stones, Now! I want to think about it as all really, one big album. Some of the stuff, most of the stuff was recorded in most of the stuff was on both versions. And we'll just kind of talk about the deviations. But instead of thinking of them as two different records we'll think of them all taken together as all kind of one big album. So if we do that and if we kind of you know, pull everything together what we, here's what we find. As I've said, tracks between the UK and the US albums differ. 7 are the same, 5 are different. So that makes eh, whe, when you get the five that are different. 5 plus 5, plus the 7 that are the same. That makes 17 songs overall that we're going to take account of here as we talk about this album form early 1965. So there are four originals on this record. So more and more originals on the albums, and we've went from 1 to 3 to 4 here with this third American studio album, and 13 covers. We'll go through the covers and this week I really want to, at the end of the week, at the end of the videos I want to make, try to make some kind of generalization about, what we can really learn from all of these cover versions that the Rolling Stones did? What does, what do these cover versions tell us? I just I just, just remarked that these were recorded in three different studios. So we have Hollywood recordings, Chicago recordings, and London recordings, as I said before are released in the U.K. in January and in the US in February. When we look at the cover art, because we've been paying a little bit of attention to that David Bailey, once again takes the photos of, for the for the both of these albums The Rolling Stones Now and, and No.2. Remember he'd, was the fashion photographer who was a friend of Mick's, who'd done the picture for 12 by 5. And there are lengthy and fanciful Liner Notes by Andrew Loog Oldham. These are probably the most lengthy Liner Notes he ever did, and I, I called them fanciful because I like Andrew Loog Oldham. And I think he's a, he's an imaginative character. Some people might call these Liner Notes a little loopy. [LAUGH] They almost seem like a kind of in anticipation of psychedelia, like psychedelia without the drugs. But anyway I, I, I'll leave it to you to look those up and, and see what you think of them. But again, we're seeing the same pattern of, you know, thinking very carefully about what the cover-art looks like and then marketing the group through the Liner Notes. We talked about that last week. So let's talk first about we said there are 4 originals and 13 covers. So let's talk about the original songs that are on these two records. What a Shame appears on both albums. For Grown Up Wrong is a, is on number 2 only but it had been on 12 by 5, right released in November of 1964. Snd then, we have Heart of Stone which was on the American version only, but it will appear on the UK version of Out of our Heads which we'll get to in a future video here this week. And then surprise, surprise that song is on the American version only. So out of those Jagger-Richards tunes, that's kind of how they lay out. Now, the cover versions that are on both albums. So of the, the 13 covers we have 6 covers that are on both albums, the 7 covers that differ. So here are the six that are both albums. There's a Solomon Burke tune called Everybody Needs Someone to Love. Alvin Robinson, Down Home Girl. Chuck Berry, You Can't Catch Me. Chuck Berry, Down the Road Apiece. That Off the Hook track that we talked about that's not really a cover of Little Walter's song but they, they had to give they had to come to some kind of legal agreement with Chess because of their Off the Wall single that Little Walter had done. And the sixth one being Pain in My Heart, Otis Redding. So what are we seeing here? More Chuck Berry? Boy they love Chuck Berry. But more Solomon Burke as well. Otis Redding, Solomon Burke, Chuck Berry real favorites with the Rolling Stones in these cover versions. What about the ones that were separately on the US and the UK side? Well, Mona (I Need You Baby) was on the U.S. album, but it had been on the Rolling Stones' first album in the U.K. right. So there was one they hadn't used in the U.S. yet, so they bring that on here, for the U.S. album. Little Red Rooster their Howlin' Wolf cover. Now that one had been a single in the U.K. remember just a, just a couple of months earlier. And so now, they bring it onto the U.S. album and, and make some use of it. And then Oh Baby (We Got a Good Thing Going) a Barbara Lynn tune, or her full name, Barbara Lynn Ozen. It appears on the American version only, but it will appear on the UK version of Out of Our Heads. I know it's a little bit complicated, but the idea is to u, they end up using up almost all of the material. So that it's some point, everything's released in both countries, not entirely but, but almost what about the stuff that was only in the UK? Under the Boardwalk was released on the UK version because it was on 12 by 5, and of course, 12 by 5 wasn't released in the UK, so there's one they, they were able to use up. Susie Q, the Dale Hawkins cover that had been on 12 by 5, also appears on the UK version. Rolling Stones number two and I Can't Be Satisfied, a Muddy Waters tune appears on the UK version. I think one, one thing that we should really note here as we talk about this album the Rolling Stones Now album is that these November 1964 sessions mark a real beginning in the RCA Studios, and I talked about that just a couple of months ago a couple of a, moments ago. But they also marked the beginning of the band's relationship with Jack Nitzsche. I'm going to say his name Neet-cha. He may pronounce is Neet-chee. Nitzsche is following the German philosopher. Jack Nitzsche was played piano, he was a kind of sort of another Phil Spector acolyte. They say acolyte. He was, you know, he was part of the Phil Spector circle. Knew a lot of people in town, was a real LA studio guy. And he became sort of an active participant in those Rolling Stones recordings in LA. So much so that when they stopped recording in LA, they would flay, fly Jack Nitzche to the session [LAUGH] so he could be with them in London. They depended a lot on his, his, his ability to sort of help them shape the music. So this is where that relationship begins. The relationship with the RCA Studio with Dave Hassinger. When they're in that RCA Studio, and with Jack Nitzsche both, when they're in, both when they're in LA and when they're in London a little bit later. As we finish out this video, I just want to say a, a couple a real quick words about an EP that was released in the UK only, it's called Got Live If You Want It. And keep an eye on this title because the title Got Live If You Want It will be used in 1966 for a live album, that's got almost entirely different content and is released in the US. So when you say Got Live When You Want It EP, you mean the UK one that's released in 65. Got Live If You Want It LP, that's the American record. That's release in 1966. And they only have, I think one song in common between the two of them. Anyway, so just keep, keep your, keep your eye on that. Don't, don't be confused between the two. This one, the EP was recorded live on tour in the UK in March of 1965 and though the recording is raw, it gives a useful picture of the bands sound live. The story that you often read is that the engineer Glyn Johns simply put, you know, a couple of microphones up in the balcony and and just recorded what he got. But when you listen to the recording mm, I'm not quite there, he may have had mics in the balcony, but you can tell that there are other mics that are pretty close to the singer's mouths because you're not hearing the singing coming through some gigantic PA or, or even a small PA reverberating through a big room. But how, however it is that Glyn Johns did that, the recordings are not really very good, and the Rolling Stones didn't like the record very much and didn't really even consider that one. Or even the second one that came out that I was talking about, the American for the next year, they didn't consider really either one of them to be live albums of the band. The live, they figured their first live album was Get your you Ya's Out from 1970. But anyway, these are great sort of early documents. It's also important to point out that Glyn Johns will become very important as an engineer when the band starts recording in Olympic Studios in, in London. And he was actually one of the first guys to record the Rolling Stones at IBC studios in London. In fact, they had to kind, he actually had signed a kind of a deal with the Rolling Stones to record them, and they had to kind of, a little bit trick Glyn Johns to let the, release them from that deal. So they could sign with Andrew Loog Oldham and Eric Easton and so then, then Easton and and Loog Oldham could, could sign them Decca. So they've, I think of what they Brian Jones was elected to go in and say the band had broken up, so could he be left out of the cut, could he be let out of the contract. And Glen said oh that's too bad, so sorry of course, of course, here signed it off and away, and they went right back to [LAUGH] Eric Easton and Andrew Loog Goldwyn. Off they went to Decca, and signed them. So anyway, Glyn Johns comes back into the picture along with his brother, Andy Johns. Anyway, Got Live If You Want It, the EP. Released in June of 1965 in the UK only goes to number one on the UK charts. It contains five tracks of which three were previously unreleased at least up to this point. Everybody Needs Somebody, Pain in My heart and Route 66 are well I should say it contains five tracks of which three were previously released sorry, there's a correction there. Everybody Needs Somebody To Love, Pain In My Heart, and Route 66, had all appeared on earlier records. And they do a cover of Hank Snow's I'm Moving On, a country western singer. They're doing a cover of I'm Moving On, that's going to be important we get to the end of this week and we talk about influences because this country influence thing. Sometimes maybe a little bit overlooked in the earlier music, it becomes pretty apparent later in the Stones music but now we can see the country music there from these very early days. And the last of the fifth of those, a song called I'm Alright. It's a, it is attributed to Nanker Phelge but there's some speculation that it's based on a Bo Diddley song. I can't tell you that for sure. So that gives us a picture of what was happening with this, these two versions of the same album, in the first half of 1965, in the summer of 65, the release of this EP, Got Live If You Want It. In the next video. I want to take a close look at three Rolling Stones songs from the first, Jagger Richard songs actually, from the first from the first half of 1965, As Tears Goes, As Tears Go By, Heart of Stone, and The Last Time.
